"So What" is Real

"So What" is Real

Tuesday, July 15, 2008

Marita's Joker/Ledger/Crow Sync Report

"The Secret Sun" blog-man, Christopher Knowles, did not have the time to put up, on his blog, the interesting work of Marita. My suspicion is that he just didn't want the hoojo anti-mojo vibes that this post, unfortunately, likely contains. ;) 

So this blog'll be the "sin eater." And we'll have our spirits chase away the bad ones.

Links to my own comments, Fluent Effusio


Hi Chris
This is a more complete version of what I wanted to send you last week, but didn't have time. I just wanted to add more of my thoughts and ideas on the archetypes, Tarot and general symbolism of the comparisons, because this was jumping out for me when I saw the story break and the promos of the movie.
I have no idea if this will make sense to you, or if this is significant enough but maybe you can make something of it. There is a bit more not very significant but very interesting nonetheless, I'll send it tomorrow. I have a problem with my ADSL line, they can be very slow here in South Africa and the e-mail is too big to send, so I'll have to do it in two sections.

 Keith Ledger, an actor

who played many roles (and check out the logo of the theatre, please)...

(Heath as "Phoenix Knight" per image above.)

                                                     credit: Goro Adachi

...died January 22, 2008.





 Crow with Mirror

Joker with Mirror

Another mirror scene, this time from "The Brothers Grimm," a movie in which Ledger played the brother, Jacob.

"Apple, Actor, Yakov." 

The Brother's Grimm





Crone with Apple

In the reflection, the witch queen is beautiful as shown in the picture above where the crone is hiding behind the chair, with the apple.

but in reality she is the archetypical crone.

(The older / younger female motif, and the twin motif, resonates to the Biblical story of Jacob or "Yacov". In some interpretations, Leah and Rachel are twins, and in other interpretations simply sisters. Leah is the older and Jaob is tricked into marrying her, when his soul mate, or true love, is the younger sister Rachel. This two-sisters-in-love-with-the-same-man was reenacted in the Hollywood movie, "27 Dresses"


(cf. See the Dorion Grey painting pairs, before and after, painted each by the Albright Brothers, Ivan and Malvin.)

The Crow was based upon a comic book character, as was Batman.

"The Crow", starring Brandon Lee (Son of Bruce, who also could have been murdered), is about Eric Draven (Raven), played by Lee, who dies and is brought back by an othernatural force, "The Crow."

The movie features esoteric symbolism. The actor, Brandon Lee, dies on the set of the movie. He's shot with a gun meant to be used as a prop, which someone just happened to load for real. Lee was 28, just as was Heath Ledger, at his death this year.

"Adapted from James O’Barr’s 1989 graphic novel, The Crow is a marvelously dark and exciting film.. It willfully celebrates the Gothic nihilism of the modern graphic novel and is indeed the most darkly exhilarating of all filmed comic-book adaptations to emerge in the wake of Batman (1989)."


Crows.. Known as the clowns of the bird world.

From "Crows and Ted Hughes"

"Native American tradition: Crow is an omen of Change. Crow lives in the void and has no sense of time, therefore, it sees past, present and future simultaneously. Crow merges both light and dark, both inner and outer. It is the totem of the Great Spirit and must be respected as such.[]

The crow as an archetype: Archetypical crows are also compared to the Jester/Trickster - "Mythic poets," Hughes wrote in Shakespeare and the Goddess of Complete Being, "...seem to be a distinct biological type". In their work, beneath the "surface glitter of the plot", there lies a deep "mythic plane" where, as for the Occult Neoplatonists of Shakespeare's time, "all archaic mythological figures and events are available as a thesaurus of glyphs or token symbols".

Hughes was interested in Occult Neo-Platonism, in Cabbalah, and in Alchemy and he was knowledgeable about all these arts.

Hughes, therefore, makes it clear that Crow has many characteristics in common with the Human. Also, given the cheeky, interfering, amoral, destructive and sometimes constructive personality which emerges through the medium of Crow's "life and songs", plus Hughes' own predilection for mythological archetypes, the comparison of Crow with the Trickster figure common in many mythologies is natural.

By adopting and developing this trickster figure Hughes was, therefore, extending his exploration into his own mind and (if Jung is correct in his interpretation of Trickster), into the human mind in general. In so doing, Hughes extended the death/rebirth theme of his poetry to include the idea of spiritual growth and rebirth for the Human, which is a most important part of the Trickster Cycle. This pattern has been traced in detail in the Crow poems by Sagar and Hirschberg."


"The Order" features the same theme as "The Crow" - Souls which have no peace.

People once believed that when someone dies a crow carries that soul to the land of the dead.

But sometimes, something so bad happens, that terrible sadness is carried with it. And the soul can't rest. And sometimes the crow can bring that soul back to put the wrong things right: Opening narration of "The Crow."

"The Sin Eater"/ "The Order": The title refers to an ancient order of rogue priests who ate food off corpses, believing that they were taking unforgiven sins upon themselves and absolving the dead.

In the film, a Sin Eater resurfaces in modern-day Rome, and allows great evil to go unpunished.

The special effects show sins "flying out" of bodies.


from "The Death of Jean DeWolff" storyline (6-issue #107 - 110) from "Peter Parker, the Spectacular Spiderman" written by Peter David. Drawn by Rich Buckler. Cira 1985

An earlier character, than the one created by David, named "Sin-Eater" first appeared in Ghost Rider #80. Ethan Domblue was a pastor obsessed to have a sinless congregation. Ghost Rider foe, Centurious, gave Ethan the power to "eat" his Congregation's sins, leaving them in a passive, "sinless" state.

However, he did not realize that by placing his parishioner's souls in the Crystal of Souls to "purify" them, he was creating an army of zombie-like slaves loyal to Centurious.


From the Movie "The Sin Eater"

"The Crow" Logo cf: "bio-mimicry:" "Who's hiding here?"

Heath Ledger plays the lead in the movie, "Casanova"

Alan Moore, wrote the "Batman: The Killing Joke" as well as "V for Vendetta"

THE HANGED MAN: Tarot, "Major Arcana"

The Hanged Man (tarot card), card number 12. Major Arcana Tarot card, also known as "The Traitor" (Major Arcana represent Humanity's Archetypes.)

A scene showing the late actor Heath Ledger in a body bag may be cut from the new Batman film, it has been reported.

Superman, aka the dollar?

Published 1996

Cover by Los Brothers Hernandez

• Antioch Arrow
• Ken Vandermark
• David S. Ware
• George Pelecanos

• The Secret Identity of John Tesh
• Killing Joke
• The Lee Harvey Oswald Band
• Los Brothers Hernandez

"Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus"

Scenes from the movie he was shooting when he died
"Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus".
"Pi Kappa Phi" fraternity?
found on David Icke forum


"The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus" is an upcoming American fantasy-adventure film directed by Terry Gilliam and written by Gilliam and screenwriter Charles McKeown. In the film, the leader of a traveling theater troupe, through a deal with the Devil, takes audience members through a magical mirror to explore their imaginations.

Christopher Plummer, Tom Waits, and Heath Ledger star in the film.

Though the death of Ledger midway through filming caused production to be temporarily suspended, Ledger's role was recast with Johnny Depp, Jude Law, and Colin Farrell portraying physically changed transformations of Ledger's character as he travels through dimensions.

The projected release date for this film is 2009.

In the present day, the immortal 1,000-year-old Doctor Parnassus (Plummer) leads a traveling theater troupe that offers audience members a chance to go beyond reality through a magical mirror in his possession.

Parnassus had been able to guide the imagination of others through a deal with the Devil (Waits), who now comes to collect on the arrangement.

As in the story/Legend "Dr. Faustus," the young female is the target - the doctor's daughter in this case (Lily Cole). The troupe, who is joined by a mysterious outsider named Tony (Ledger), embark through parallel worlds to rescue the girl.

Ledger's role was recast to have 3 new actors portray his "physically transformed versions" in the realm.

Johnny Depp portrays a magical transformation of Tony
Jude Law portrays a magical transformation of Tony
Colin Farrell portrays a magical transformation of Tony


At every journey's start, there is the impetus that takes us forward. This force exists before any physical movement. Consciously or subconsciously, all of our self-aware actions are dictated by our will. Before taking any journey, first the will must want to take the journey. It is the force which sends the signal that allows the foot to take the step.

The Fool represents this force. The Fool is the first card of the Major Arcana, but its number is 0. It resides outside of the Major Arcana, and it can be taken as the state that signifies the beginning.

The Fool represents bravery at the start of a journey and the willingness to travel beyond the known territory, and so it is often seen manifested in rights of passage or as the first step of an Initiate. The Initiate starts off with a vague understanding of the consequences involved but exhibits a willingness to follow the path anyway. There is a, perhaps, subconscious understanding that at the end of the trail will be answers, but this is more faith than anything else.

Heath Ledger slips into a black-and-white clown costume while filming the Terry Gilliam-directed film "The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus."

Some people find clowns disturbing rather than amusing. It is not uncommon for children to be afraid of disguised, exaggerated, or costumed figures — even Santa Claus.

In his writings of the late 1980s, Henry Louis Gates, Jr. presents the concept of Signifyin(g). Wound up in this theory is the idea that the “master’s house” can be “dismantled” using his “tools,” if the tools are used in a new or unconventional way.

To demonstrate this process, Gates cites the interactions found in African American narrative poetry between the trickster, the “Signifying Monkey”, and his oppressor, the Lion.

According to Gates, the “Signifying Monkey” is the “New World figuration” and “functional equivalent” of the Esu trickster figure of African Yoruba mythology. The Lion functions as the authoritative figure in his classical role of “King of the Jungle.” He is the one who commands the Signifying Monkey’s movements. Yet the Monkey is able to outwit the Lion continually in these narratives through his usage of figurative language.

According to Gates, “[T]he Signifying Monkey is able to signify upon the Lion because the Lion does not understand the Monkey’s discourse. The monkey speaks figuratively, in a symbolic code; the lion interprets or reads literally and suffers the consequences of his folly…” In this way, the Monkey uses the same language as the Lion, but he uses it on a level that the Lion cannot comprehend. This usually leads to the Lion’s “trounc[ing]” at the hands of a third-party, the Elephant. The net effect of all of this is “the reversal of [the Lion’s] status as the King of the Jungle.” In this way, the “master’s house” is dismantled when his own tools are turned against him by the trickster Monkey.

Heath and Terry also worked together in 2005’s "The Brother's Grimm."

He had a small role in "Clowning Around"

Heath Ledger is the third young star to die who has been shown in the media before or after the fact wearing clown makeup or face paint:

Brandon Lee - died while filming The Crow. He, like Ledger, was also 28 when he died on March 31, 1993. Who dies from a fake bullet?

Anna Nicole Smith - died of a drug overdose and/or pneumonia. After her death, photos surfaced of her in strange clown makeup.

She died on Feb. 8, 2007 in room 607. Like Ledger and Brando (CHRISTIAN Brando has died - Jan 26, 2008), she had pneumonia.

Strangely Heath Ledger also had pneumonia:

Dark Knight Promo Pics

“When the human race wears a sorry face,
When the bomb hangs overhead.
When your kid turns blue it won’t worry you’
You can smile and nod instead” - The Joker

Click on images for larger view:


Ledger died in "Gotham City"

The actor Heath Ledger was found dead Tuesday afternoon in an apartment in Manhattan, according to the New York City police.

"Gotham City"

Talk about seriously...............

Ledger's Joker scene shocks viewers


dedroidify said...
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dedroidify said...

Hey great job, I put up nearly the same post lol but there are some differences, and the more syncs the better. And! We can share the sin eater load ;)) I finish my post exactly about that ;p

Bigevil said...


Hey I think this sync will fit in perfectly with your investigation. The WCW's Scorpionic "Sting" character was modelled after the Crow and in the 1997 ppv "Starcade" (the most successful WCW ppv of all time) and the 1998 ppv "Superbrawl 8" battled against the leader of the New World Order Hollywood Hulk Hogan. In the Starcade ppv he was a sort of supernatural rebel savior character that was supposed to free WCW from the tyranny of the New World Order and succeeded in winning both matches.

Virginia said...

trying to watch more his movies.
your post is of great help for people who know little about him,his name. Actually I watched a lot of his films and all are impressive.I just don't know that man is him,Heath Ledger...Now a bit too late.

VJESCI said...

.interesting synch...michael keaton hanging upside down in batman: http://imaginarycinema.com/images/burton/bat6.jpg

.heath hanging by the foot/feet in the dark knight: http://www.incontention.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/5-darkknight14.jpg

.heath hanging by the neck in parnassus: http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/parn2-e1270439472118.jpg